With current predictions. Which means it will likely be melted in 10-15
sandworm101 8 hours ago [-]
I am not a fan of these super-natural art projects. It is one thing to make a statue that might stand for a thousand years ... or not. It is another to designate forest land and other resources, to attempt to lock them away from use by future generations.
The legal system dealt with this hundreds of years ago. We cannot have "dead hands" dictating how future generations should live and work. The proper vehicle for such things is government. Donate the land as a park or nature preserve and cross your fingers that your intent will be respected.
A similar worry developed around the concept of compound interest. Some semi-rich people wanted to park money in bank accounts for a few generations in order to make thier great-grandkids into powerful people... with explicit instructions on how to use that money/power. Such multi-generation shenanigans are against the general public interest.
coldtea 3 hours ago [-]
>We cannot have "dead hands" dictating how future generations should live and work.
Almost everything (tech, cultural, etc) you have now is because of "dead hands".
Wish we had more dead hands dictating how future generations should live and work. And more current people having a vision of the world and what they build and live for beyond their own lifetime.
HWR_14 8 hours ago [-]
It's 88 years. The odds of it falling afoul of the law against perpetuities is negligible and would indicate something catastrophic happened.
vasco 8 hours ago [-]
> We cannot have "dead hands" dictating how future generations should live and work
The whole world is dictated by dead hands. I cannot walk around pristine forests (maybe I even need to pre-register), I need to deal with bureaucracy, I need to pay taxes, almost every single landscape is ruined by human buildings, etc. So what is that even about?
b112 3 hours ago [-]
I guess you live in a city. Or a highly populated country.
There's lots of unused land in this world. Most of Canada is. I live in a rural area, and loads of forest land, yet I'm 20 minutes to a city with 1M in population.
A few hours more outward, and it's just all empty federal land.
Where do you live? Surely not the US, Canada or Mexico. These places have lots of untamed, not locked down land.
Unless, of course, you're in a city.
sandworm101 5 hours ago [-]
Those things are controlled by government, which you may change. You aren't confined to a single job/city because your dead father holds you their by contract, the penalty being you repaying for all the food you ate as a kid.
When I helped at a legal clinic, lots of old people wanted their kids to stay local. They wanted wills drafted to disinherit the kids if they ever moved away. I spent hours explaining how idiotic that was.
HWR_14 8 minutes ago [-]
Idiotic, but still legal?
slipperybeluga 11 hours ago [-]
Pretty presumptuous to assume anyone will care in 88 years
jhbadger 1 hours ago [-]
Maybe, but these are pretty famous writers and artists. I'm sure we would care today if say, Ernest Hemingway or F. Scott Fitzgerald had locked away some works 88 years ago.
SanjayMehta 10 hours ago [-]
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dang 9 hours ago [-]
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."
Those two words are all that are required to describe this "news."
unlessitswoke 9 hours ago [-]
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hndnffuf 8 hours ago [-]
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yahthatsart 10 hours ago [-]
We typically use the word "art", which, yes, is often performative and sometimes nonsense!
Not all art is to everyone's taste, and that's ok too. You don't have to enjoy this art piece. I find the idea of creating something that I cannot possibly enjoy to be quite poignant. But hey, I'm sure you have art you enjoy that I do not.
jendkfmgmy 8 hours ago [-]
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hellojomp 9 hours ago [-]
We are so starved for aura we have to farm into the future now, I too would like to dine.
paganel 7 hours ago [-]
I agree, this is pure (US) boomer behavior, they still think that the world will care about them almost a century into the future from the moment of their deaths. The world won't do that, one of the reasons being that said boomers have been quite talentless given their resources.
Propelloni 5 hours ago [-]
Vanity is not a trait exclusive to people born in an ill-defined interval of time. You internet using people need to come up with a better term for people you want to blame for everything bad in the world. Jobs, Wozniak, Berners-Lee, or that Ethernet dude, Metcalfe, are not responsible for the end of the world.
boesboes 5 hours ago [-]
ok boomer
jonhohle 10 hours ago [-]
> At the end of the project, the full anthology of texts will be printed using paper made from trees from the Future Library forest
remind me in 88 years.
Also, file in “things that will never happen.”
yahthatsart 10 hours ago [-]
Those trees will mature in 2050ish timeframe. If this person put together a trust to manage the particulars, they might be alive to ensure the trees get harvested and processed into paper.
Trees get turned into paper every day, I'm sure there's a paper mill willing to take the work, especially in Northern Europe.
IncreasePosts 9 hours ago [-]
I like to imagine futures where they judge us through their standards as harshly as we judge the past through our standards.
So, instead of some future people celebrating this project, they just think "Ew, what kind of monster would wish harm on a beautiful old tree?"
classified 8 hours ago [-]
Or they look on it with nostalgia because by then most people use emoji as written communication and have never learned to read.
The legal system dealt with this hundreds of years ago. We cannot have "dead hands" dictating how future generations should live and work. The proper vehicle for such things is government. Donate the land as a park or nature preserve and cross your fingers that your intent will be respected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities
A similar worry developed around the concept of compound interest. Some semi-rich people wanted to park money in bank accounts for a few generations in order to make thier great-grandkids into powerful people... with explicit instructions on how to use that money/power. Such multi-generation shenanigans are against the general public interest.
Almost everything (tech, cultural, etc) you have now is because of "dead hands".
Wish we had more dead hands dictating how future generations should live and work. And more current people having a vision of the world and what they build and live for beyond their own lifetime.
The whole world is dictated by dead hands. I cannot walk around pristine forests (maybe I even need to pre-register), I need to deal with bureaucracy, I need to pay taxes, almost every single landscape is ruined by human buildings, etc. So what is that even about?
There's lots of unused land in this world. Most of Canada is. I live in a rural area, and loads of forest land, yet I'm 20 minutes to a city with 1M in population.
A few hours more outward, and it's just all empty federal land.
Where do you live? Surely not the US, Canada or Mexico. These places have lots of untamed, not locked down land.
Unless, of course, you're in a city.
When I helped at a legal clinic, lots of old people wanted their kids to stay local. They wanted wills drafted to disinherit the kids if they ever moved away. I spent hours explaining how idiotic that was.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Not all art is to everyone's taste, and that's ok too. You don't have to enjoy this art piece. I find the idea of creating something that I cannot possibly enjoy to be quite poignant. But hey, I'm sure you have art you enjoy that I do not.
remind me in 88 years.
Also, file in “things that will never happen.”
Trees get turned into paper every day, I'm sure there's a paper mill willing to take the work, especially in Northern Europe.
So, instead of some future people celebrating this project, they just think "Ew, what kind of monster would wish harm on a beautiful old tree?"